Curse

pork soldier · Jul 06, 2006, 02:20 AM // 02:20

My housemate was banned for being logged in too much, making too much money and pvping too much aka,

++hours logged
++money made
++missions entered

gfg anet, gfg.

ps: now they "can't find her account"

CyberNigma · Jul 06, 2006, 02:27 AM // 02:27

I detest botters and professional botters. However, I think the crusade that has been on-going against the types of players started back during the developers' Diablo days. I think cheaters, botters, and pro-farmers scarred them so badly during that time period that screwing/trapping said pro farmers, botters, and cheaters has overtaken the normal-player welfare by far. Quite of bit of the stuff we see that happens in this game is geared more towards stopping them than being pro-player. Some people have been saying they believe the crusade is going too far (kind of like a bad case of Captain Ahab), though I am still on the fence.

I don't like the botters and pro farmers, but aside from a few specific areas (Elona Reach), and the fact that I deal with collector items/armour/drops and don't bank too much on the economy, they aren't oppressing me too much. On the other hand, I don't want GW to be screwed up as bad as the Diablos were screwed up by said cheaters/botters/pro farmers.

Of course, going the other way would be just as bad. I think the gates were more anti-botters/farmers, requiring them to play to get to their farm-spot, than they were anti-runner in general. Fingers of Chaos was the anti-botter/pro farmer nuclear bomb lol. Until this point, though, they've been really good about not having collateral damage. The people that got banned this time are just unfortunate casualties in ANet's Captain Ahab Crusade against botters and pro farmers.

I would definitely cut them some slack though. They had to witness their previous creation nearly destroyed by these people, so some hatred is to be expected. They probably want to error on the side against the botters/pro farmers than the other way around.

My Sweet Revenga · Jul 06, 2006, 02:28 AM // 02:28

Wow. Makes me glad I decided to do overtime at work today. I'm actually kinda afraid to go home and load up GW.......

Matix411 · Jul 06, 2006, 02:30 AM // 02:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by pork soldier

My housemate was banned for being logged in too much, making too much money and pvping too much aka,

++hours logged
++money made
++missions entered

gfg anet, gfg.

ps: now they "can't find her account"

ROFL!
I just got the exact same reply from PlayNC support.
The information I gave them couldn't be used appropriately to find my account, so I had to provide every character name, the email from my account (which I gave them before) and the exact message stated while trying to login (which I also gave them).

Sad.
So very sad.

LoKi Foxfire · Jul 06, 2006, 02:33 AM // 02:33

Hey, maybe they got hacked and a bunch of griefers just started banning everyone as fast as they humanly could? Maybe deleted some accounts too?

I'm afraid to even log in now.

darkx · Jul 06, 2006, 02:34 AM // 02:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matix411

ROFL!
I just got the exact same reply from PlayNC support.
The information I gave them couldn't be used appropriately to find my account, so I had to provide every character name, the email from my account (which I gave them before) and the exact message stated while trying to login (which I also gave them).

Sad.
So very sad.

hmm now i am not in anger any more but rather in fear of my account being in the same sitaution.

Matix411 · Jul 06, 2006, 02:38 AM // 02:38

In regards to LoKi's comment:

That would be horrible, don't even speak of such things.
I'm pissed off my account got suspended let alone banned and/or deleted permanently. I think I'd cry if my account got deleted, literally. Hundreds of hours have gone into mine and the majority of others' characters, to have such a tragedy happen would bring about the Apocalypse.

Sigh ...

I just want to play.
Seriously.
I want to go to Drok's, run a little ways to that ominous little ice cave, and play dead with some mountain trolls, ok?
Or take my newly beloved Ranger on a stroll through some dirty greasy Afflicted mobs.

I'm tired of hearing of other players' pain and sorrow, haha.

GAAAAAHHHHHHH.

clonek · Jul 06, 2006, 02:39 AM // 02:39

I'm still banned. Sent a message to Tech Support 5 hours ago and haven't recieved a response.

DeathGT · Jul 06, 2006, 02:39 AM // 02:39

im still banned too, ive been wating for 8 hours no reply from a net supposrt yet and some ppl have been unbanned alredy

death met · Jul 06, 2006, 02:39 AM // 02:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_stealth

I think those numbers are off a bit. Out of 115 people, at least 3 are in my alliance...what are the odds of that? And I recall another person saying that several guilds in his alliance had members banned. One of the people in my alliance that got banned was in a teamspeak server with several others that got banned at the same time.

I know friends that got banned, what are the odds of that too? I think that bans by accident reach like a couple of hundreds if not thousands. Maybe thats why support is taking quite long to attend the cases.

I'm still happy many bots got banned though. At least they are taking action to make the game better.

Sword Of Cheese · Jul 06, 2006, 02:41 AM // 02:41

ive been banned since 3 EST sent a million e-mails and all i got back was contact that useless support site linking from the guild wars the really need a phone number

LoKi Foxfire · Jul 06, 2006, 02:42 AM // 02:42

This might be because of hackers or perhaps a bug in some new anti-botting code they tried to implement... either way, I just hope they don't have to do a rollback or anything because I've finally bothered to map like 10% for Tyria on my main character in addition to finishing my Protector titles. :/

Matix411 · Jul 06, 2006, 02:42 AM // 02:42

If this turns into a case of hackers, and accounts are being deleted and that's why support can't find them, I'm going to flip.
What are they going to do to replace the countless hours of gameplay? The ridiculous amounts of money made and spent?
I never made that much, but it took a hell of a long time to save up either way.

I DON'T WANT TO THINK ABOUT THIS ANYMORE.
I'M GOING TO BREAK SOMETHING.

I need tea. Excuse me.

pork soldier · Jul 06, 2006, 02:43 AM // 02:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matix411

ROFL!
I just got the exact same reply from PlayNC support.
The information I gave them couldn't be used appropriately to find my account, so I had to provide every character name, the email from my account (which I gave them before) and the exact message stated while trying to login (which I also gave them).

Sad.
So very sad.

Yeah, it gets better - I have the master account that owns her game keys (I bought gw & factions for her) so even though they have her gw login they aren't sure where the account actually is.

g f'ing g.

edit: there are no hackers, don't start that rumor - support is just 90% inane.

LoKi Foxfire · Jul 06, 2006, 02:44 AM // 02:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matix411

If this turns into a case of hackers, and accounts are being deleted and that's why support can't find them, I'm going to flip.
What are they going to do to replace the countless hours of gameplay? The ridiculous amounts of money made and spent?
I never made that much, but it took a hell of a long time to save up either way.

I DON'T WANT TO THINK ABOUT THIS ANYMORE.
I'M GOING TO BREAK SOMETHING.

I need tea. Excuse me.

I'm afraid of logging back in right now. I played last at 6:30 PM EST and haven't gotten banned yet but I'm afraid of triggering the autoban. I figure since a lot of people have been opening chests, there is a bug in the code that bans people who open chests or something to that extent...

darkx · Jul 06, 2006, 02:46 AM // 02:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matix411

If this turns into a case of hackers, and accounts are being deleted and that's why support can't find them, I'm going to flip.
What are they going to do to replace the countless hours of gameplay? The ridiculous amounts of money made and spent?
I never made that much, but it took a hell of a long time to save up either way.

I DON'T WANT TO THINK ABOUT THIS ANYMORE.
I'M GOING TO BREAK SOMETHING.

I need tea. Excuse me.

i understand your feeling bro, when i found out i got banned today after school, i tear up the guildwars web site in search of a phone number, but found only email. wanted a good explanation for such action against me. didnt realize so many other were banned until i started googling for code=045 error.

tryptamine_xxp · Jul 06, 2006, 02:47 AM // 02:47

to cybernigma : does REALM DOWN ring a bell? in diablo 2 there was a ''bot blocker'' that if you switched many instances in a small period of time you had a temporary ban on your account... lol 3 months ago i went to just log in with every one of my chars and on last one i got temp ban again.. i said on previous pst that this game might not become diablo2 as far as bots but i hope these false bannings are not here to stay :S imagine getting temp ban cause you switch your chars to fast or you travel to maps to often .. not to mention good ol farming..

Matix411 · Jul 06, 2006, 02:48 AM // 02:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by pork soldier

Yeah, it gets better - I have the master account that owns her game keys (I bought gw & factions for her) so even though they have her gw login they aren't sure where the account actually is.

g f'ing g.

edit: there are no hackers, don't start that rumor - support is just 90% inane.

I'm not trying to start rumors, I'm just freaking out. I want to play damnit!

As for the rest, that's ridiculous.
They have all the information yet, still can't find her account? WTF?
I just got a reply back from PlayNC support, after I gave them ALL my information, and, "I didn't reply correctly to the previous message".
So, I had to reply AGAIN, after they made it seem like they couldn't read my message or something, yet, still replied with the original message as an attachment, and requested I reply with the message "between requested lines."

ie.

"[===> Please enter your reply below this line <===]"

"[===> Please enter your reply above this line <===]"

I DON'T LIKE THIS GAME.
I simply wanted a reply not "If your request is not between this typed line, I cannot process your request, due to the fact that my eyes only read a certain percentage of the way into the screen. I must be placed at the exact position of the message, else my eyes will only read absolute and eternal nothingness."

sinican · Jul 06, 2006, 02:49 AM // 02:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadowcast

There are +2 million accounts. Around 4,000+ were banned. 115 of these have been unbanned, or less than 3% margin of error. (source: Gaile: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=3071267).

It was either do this, or don't ban bot users at all.

I suppose some people just can't take one for the team. Ban me for a week if it means you get all these botters, I don't care.

did you take one for the team???... oh hell doesnt matter...

they shouldn't have done it at all... i didnt get a bann nor do i know anyone personally who has yet this still impacts me... when is the next time and will i be banned then...

3% is a small percetage but it is 115 unjustly banned players

stop with the percentage game that is a way of blindsiding people by corperations...

you know like the tobacco companies stating that only 3% of their customer base has been proven to dire directly from smokeing... yea small number till that 3% is over a million people...

stop pretending this isn't a big deal... 115 people is more people than i know persoanlly in game... 115 people is a couple districts worth of people isn't it...

come on this measly 3% is a big number when its 115+

and truthfully since you find 3% not a big deal what percentage of unjust bans would you consider a problem?

not to mention the fact that this minor 3% error opens up a whole lot of "i was wrongfully banned" from people who shouldve been legitamately banned...

what here is the greater good... 115+ taking it from behind so that 4000 bots can be banned and giving the cheaters a reason of benefit of the doubt...or NOT banning like this...

makes honest people very untrusting... im sure Anet is taking this seriousely internally but seems they are shrugging it off to all of us...

this IS a big error

CyberNigma · Jul 06, 2006, 02:50 AM // 02:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by tryptamine_xxp

to cybernigma : does REALM DOWN ring a bell? in diablo 2 there was a ''bot blocker'' that if you switched many instances in a small period of time you had a temporary ban on your account... lol 3 months ago i went to just log in with every one of my chars and on last one i got temp ban again.. i said on previous pst that this game might not become diablo2 as far as bots but i hope these false bannings are not here to stay :S imagine getting temp ban cause you switch your chars to fast or you travel to maps to often .. not to mention good ol farming..

lol... well the closest they have I think is the anti-farm code that pops up when u enter a zone too many times without doing anything but killing one thing. that's still not too close. I've thought about just zoning back and forth a shitload of times and then seeing if it affects any drops (zoning without killing anything).

http://extreme-gamerz.org/diablo2/vi...d2realmdownfix

EDIT: and truthfully, if a bunch of botters, cheaters, and pro farmers RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed up a game I helped to create, then I'd probably have some bot-rage built up as well lol..